Unpacking the Role JD Vance Played on That Debate Stage

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat - A podcast by New York Times Opinion

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This week the hosts discuss what was obscured by the civility of the V.P. debate, and consider what JD Vance and Tim Walz really offer their running mates and their parties’ futures. Plus, Michelle won’t be washing away her stresses any time soon.